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Topic Posts Pages Last Post Last Poster Hall of Supreme Harmony Gotheborg Forum Rules, Policies, Participation and Privacy The purpose of this Asian Ceramic Art Collectors Community and Forum is to help each other, teach beginners and pass on the hard to gain practical knowledge on how to authenticate genuine Asian antique ceramics. This material knowledge is more complicated than the plain Asian Arts History, since it addresses the actual authenticity of specific items and not only if they are "in the style of". We do this by encouraging experienced collectors to clap together our various expert knowledge and thus forming a formidable knowledge resource while at the same time enjoying our own collections. Summary: 1. Ask when you need, 2. Help when you can, 3. No business. 0 1 09-22-23  11:45 am   FAQ - How to Post and Participate FAQ on practical issues. See also the " Help/Instructions" link at the bottom of all pages. 215 20 04-21-22  09:07 pm Giovanni Repetti The Sportsman's Bar [ All today's posts on the whole board ] Off Topic Trade News and Friendly Chit-chat [90 days archive] News and friendly chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else. Threads not added to for more than 90 days will be deleted automatically. 23211 1940 09-22-23  10:53 am Birgit Steinbach Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Year of the Rabbit - 2023 2023 is a year of the Water Rabbit, starting from January 22nd, 2023 (Chinese New Year), and ending on February 9th, 2024 (Chinese New Year's Eve). The sign of Rabbit is a symbol of longevity, peace, and prosperity in Chinese culture. 43 1 01-31-23  06:18 pm gokhan aksoy Pinned pages - Links to our most informative pages On this Forum, we have more than 35,000 pages and 350 thousand+ posts and images under some 80 different topics, why some of our most informative pages might be difficult to find. When you find any really great and informative pages, please create a link here with an informative name to help others find it too. 26 16 09-29-21  04:39 pm Nomi Meivar Local Meetings Invitations to and reports from local chapter meetings 988 83 08-11-23  08:14 am Giel Louws Exhibitions and Museum Collections Visits at public exhibitions, for easy reference. Please feel free to add your pictures here 3404 290 08-23-23  10:21 am Peter Member's Collection Gallery The purpose of this topic is to showcase only known genuine and representative pieces in our members collection, to serve as a study and reference database. Welcome to create any topic you'd like to showcase. Give a brief description with measurement, period and any reference to public exhibitions or relevant literature. Two photos only of each piece. Front and back/base. Link to previous discussion authenticating the piece, if any. This topic will be edited and moderated to facilitate reading and focus. 148 20 04-12-23  03:31 pm Gary Kostka Collection Stickers on Porcelain Collection, Exhibition, Museum and Auction Labels found on porcelain. 420 165 01-21-23  01:29 pm Cliff Nunn Price Records and Exceptional Tales Welcome to post any and all information on spectacular price records and antiques trade lore from today and days gone by. 1343 132 11-30-22  09:14 pm nick constant Simons Quest Put your fellow members on an educational trial. This topic are for objects whose authenticity (or lack thereof) are known, and where clues can be given gradually to stimulate discussion. 8089 316 06-02-23  11:57 am Louis Warner II Chinese Pottery and Porcelain If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question. Early Pottery Neolithic and later earthenware, "proto-porcelain" jars and figures, Zhou, Warring States and Han, Sui, Tang, Ming and Qing figures and architechtural pieces, Changsha wares. 12133 1057 09-07-23  12:32 pm Giel Louws Green glazed wares Yue yao, Zhejiang Celadon, Northern and the numerous Southern Song kilns, Thai, Korean and Japanese ceramics and any related Asian ceramics with mostly green/gray/brown monochrome glaze 16017 1453 09-16-23  04:42 pm Jeremy Beer White wares White round wares from Tang dynasty, Ding yao, Qingbai/Yingqing, white Jingdezhen porcelain from Ming, Qing and later, Fujian province, etc. 14602 1160 09-22-23  10:25 am Birgit Steinbach Crackled wares Song Guan or Ge or later imitations. Any porcelain with crackled glaze as an intentional decorative feature 2864 311 09-13-23  09:25 am Rainer Geschke Brown and Black wares Temmoku / Jian ware, Huangpu, Lushan, Cizhou and Jizhou. 10184 874 08-22-23  01:28 am melissa johnson Jun Jun family type of wares 3370 233 02-18-23  01:16 pm Kalle Florén Yixing / Buccaro / Zisha (Purple Clay) Typically brown or red stoneware teapots from clay mined near the city of Yixing in Jiangsu Province, China 2903 341 05-19-23  11:24 am Yin Hall Yuan porcelain Primarily Yuan porcelain with underglaze red or underglaze blue and white decoration. Monochromes can be posted elsewhere. 2615 161 07-10-23  09:08 am Kevin Hawco Ming period porcelain, all decorations Underglaze blue and white, copper red and white, polychromes, Wucai, Swatow (Zhangzhou) ware etc. 16762 1222 08-19-23  03:10 pm Charlotte Wilson 'Kraak' style decoration If you are not sure if the decoration is Kraak, you can post under 'Ming', since that is usually what it is too. 1909 136 08-10-23  02:12 am Gabriel Ficht Chinese Imperial Porcelain Discussions related to Imperial porcelain as such, ordering, decoration, marks, use etc. 3236 163 07-04-23  02:53 pm Brent E. Haynes Early to mid Qing Blue and White Typically Transitional and Kangxi blue and white with common shapes and decoration, that are not Armorial nor Imperial 22643 1871 09-15-23  10:16 pm Walter Susor Early to mid Qing porcelain - polychrome Early to mid Qing dynasty polychrome wares, such as wucai, doucai, susancai that are not of armorial or special design type, nor Imperial. 14325 1083 09-12-23  08:09 pm Mark Bennett Chinese Western Market Export Porcelain Special designs, Armorial porcelain, all pieces with shapes and decorations made to order or to fit foreign taste and customs. Decorations typically blue and white, Willow Pattern, Famille Rose, Famille verte (Kangxi wucai), Chinese Imari, Rose Medallion, etc. 19080 1707 09-21-23  03:02 am melissa johnson "Clobb'd" porcelain Chinese export porcelain with secondary enamel decoration added in Europe 884 82 05-31-23  08:56 am Freek Pals Mid Qing to 21th century - Polychrome 19th and 20th century - Guangxu, Early Republic, Straits Chinese Porcelain, Fahua, fencai, the Eight Friends of Zhushan, Jiangxi Porcelain Co., Mao Zedong, etc. 27489 2556 09-22-23  06:20 am Michaela Russell Mid Qing to 21th century - Blue and White From "Kangxi revival" to modern wares. All pieces where underglaze blue is involved, also underglaze blue and red and high fired cobalt glaze. 5048 642 09-06-23  07:49 am Jan-Erik Nilsson Porcelain plaques 1058 98 01-09-23  07:01 am Marcos R VISCONTI Dated porcelain Porcelain dated to a specific year by their inscriptions. 4356 314 05-20-23  02:53 am David Lane Michaela Russel's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project Michaela's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project 240 35 02-13-23  04:46 pm Tom Reigel Tommy Eklof's Facial Features and Adornments Research Project Welcome to comment and add new photos to the database 939 42 12-27-22  02:17 pm Deborah Ghiai Cultural Revolution Period Porcelain 1965-75 Chinese cultural revolution porcelain inside and outside of China proper, including Macao and Hong Kong decorated porcelain of the period. 416 49 10-25-22  09:01 am Michaela Russell Bleu de Hue Chinese porcelain for the Vietnamese market 227 42 06-18-23  11:56 am Cynthia S Thomas Figures or sculpted porcelain, Blanc-de-Chine or polychrome White or polychrome sculpted pottery or Porcelain - Chen Guozhi, Wang Bingrong, Li Yucheng and similar, white, Blanc-de-Chine (Dehua), Shiwan or other polychrome ceramic wares, decorative or altar figures 3202 388 08-08-23  08:02 pm David Hertzberg Monochromes Colored glazes such as Ox-blood, peach bloom, powder blue, tea dust, yellow, green, mirror black, Faux bronze, faux wood, etc. 8894 768 07-22-23  08:10 pm Yin Hall Snuff Bottles Special topic for Snuff Bottles regardless of material or decoration - porcelain, glass, lapiz lazuli, lacquer, bone etc. 2393 302 06-18-23  01:47 pm Tommy Eklöf Chinese Porcelain Marks Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com "Marks" section. Additions and corrections for that section could be added here. 4675 634 05-24-23  01:29 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson Chinese Porcelain Motifs On particular stories and their illustrations that appear on porcelain, with documentation and pictures of variations that appear on porcelain from different periods. Topics on particular motifs, such as dragon depictions/variations. 2397 151 11-07-22  12:52 pm Ernie Sanders Modern Chinese Art Porcelain Works currently produced by individual artist. Jiangxi's Ceramic Research Inst., etc 228 48 10-18-21  06:07 pm Terri Adkins Chinese Kilns, Clays, Glazes and Decorations Cross topic question that does not belong under any particular ware 1663 126 02-05-23  01:55 pm Cynthia S Thomas Last resort - Help Needed - Chinese? Chinese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved. If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it. 17556 1758 09-20-23  06:47 pm Cliff Nunn Japanese Pottery and Porcelain If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question. Japanese Section 'Off Topic' Friendly thoughts and chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else 1146 141 05-19-23  09:43 pm Joe Hertel Last resort - Help Needed - Japanese? Japanese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved. If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it. 2755 291 09-01-23  02:03 pm John Wocher Polychrome Arita/Hisen 'Imari' Porcelain Kinrande (Blue Underglaze, Polychrome enamels and Gold). Akae (red dominating) or Iroe decorated with gilt decoration and other colors mostly for export. 13078 1192 09-16-23  07:02 pm james ferrares Japanese Meiji-19-20th century polychrome enamels All Meiji and later polychrome enamels, including all Meiji and later commercial kilns like Koransha, Fukagawa and Noritake. Also all wares labeled 'Made in Japan', 'Japan', 'Nippon' or with an 'M in wreath' etc. Also Dragonware and Moriage decoration. From the Meiji period (1868-1912) and later. 5631 638 09-13-23  08:24 am Bouvier Georges Geisha Girl Porcelain Japanese Porcelain with overglaze printed decoration of Japanese ladies in kimonos with printed outlines as defined by Elyce Litts, but extended also to porcelain where the decoration is similar but entirely hand painted. 354 52 10-09-21  05:28 am Mike Brett Blue and White Arita/Hisen Porcelain Sometsuke and Ko-Sometsuke. This is the dominating kiln area for Japanese porcelain of the 19th century and older, in particular to the West since so much of this was exported. Post Japanese Blue and White here when in doubt. 6180 629 09-19-23  02:58 am John Wocher Other Japanese Blue and White Underglaze Blue and white decorated porcelain of unknown but Japanese origin. 1081 126 07-25-23  03:58 am John Wocher Japanese Figures Human and animal figures could all be posted here regardless of kiln type or area. 897 119 07-17-23  02:34 am John Wocher Japanese Monochromes Awaji and similar wares with entirely or mostly monochrome glazes. Japanese Celadon 769 101 08-06-23  08:24 am John Wocher Japanese blue and white transfer printed decoration Blue and white Japanese porcelain with stenciled, transfer printed or otherwise print supported decoration 830 95 04-30-23  10:04 am Richard Shakles Carrie Lamberts Japanese Cobalt Blue Ceramics and other polychrome transfer printed decoration project Cobalt Blue Ceramics and similar second half 20th century transfer printed decorations, including but not limited to Japan 498 132 02-22-23  05:35 am John Wocher Japanese Porcelain Marks and Motifs Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com 'Japanese Marks' section. 3231 496 09-21-23  12:31 pm John Wocher Japanese Studio Pottery and Contemporary Porcelain 1570 227 01-16-23  04:31 am John Wocher Sumida, Banko, Hagi, Mashiko, etc. and other difficult to identify Japanese Pottery and Stoneware 2244 317 09-07-23  08:07 am John Wocher Hirado 1371 127 01-21-23  11:20 pm walter perrie Kakiemon Kakiemon and Kakiemon style enamel decoration 1386 97 09-17-23  01:54 am Cliff Nunn Kutani For more information on Kutani, kindly also refer to Georges Bouvier's Kutani Collectors web-site. 8653 975 09-15-23  11:06 am Cliff Nunn Nabeshima Nabeshima and 'Nabeshima style' 701 67 11-19-22  06:10 pm Andy Aigner Satsuma and Satsuma-Like Original Satsuma earthenware but also 'Satsuma marked' items and 'Satsuma looking' pices 8704 958 09-04-23  01:05 am Robyn Kaminski Seto Formerly Owari and Nagoya, renamed to Aichi Prefecture 1872. Largest ceramic center i Japan 1368 139 09-20-23  04:57 am Bob Williams General pottery and porcelain questions Mystery Pieces 3784 404 07-27-23  09:25 am Jan-Erik Nilsson Known methods of faking Method and technology in making pottery and porcelain fakes 1002 90 08-25-20  12:56 pm Geoffrey Middle Discussions on Shapes The shape of a piece is probably the most important clue to the identification of an item with regard to its authenticity and period. This category is for the discussion on the uniqueness (not just the shape of course) of a particular kind of ware that has been produced throughout a significant period of time in the history of Chinese ceramics like meiping; yuhuchun jar; ginger jar, Gu etc. 712 48 09-10-23  05:11 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson Base and foot rim archive Add foot rims / bases of similar age to the same thread. Start new thread if you want to cover a new type that is not represented. 297 71 02-26-23  04:48 pm Nomi Meivar Asia outside China and Japan Korea, Vietnam, Thai, Indonesia, etc. 2744 301 09-13-23  01:04 am Joe Hertel Western wares with Oriental design Edmée Samson of Paris, Delft, Bristol, Bow, Derby, Staffordshire, Caughley, etc. to Bernard Leach 1425 174 09-10-23  07:16 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson Wares from the Middle east/Asia minor 350 40 10-17-22  03:08 pm wil hugers Shards and archaeology For help to archaeologists and others on unspecified shard finds 512 52 05-08-22  05:10 pm Thom de Cant Gold, Silver, Metal, Cloisonné, Lacquer, Ivory, Wood, Glass, Jade, Textiles and Paintings, etc. Textiles, Rugs, Prints, Silk, Paper, Paintings and Calligraphy Textile art as in clothes, Chinese and Tibetan rugs but also anything related to silk and paper as in calligraphy and paintings 7945 961 09-21-23  05:57 pm David Lane Non-ceramic pieces such as Wood, Glass, Ivory, Bone, Soft and hard stones, etc. Most any non-ceramic wares and sculptures that does not fit anywhere else, being they Chinese or Japanese 10292 1110 09-20-23  09:03 am Peter Lacquer Chinese and Japanese lacquer, Lac Burgauté, cinnabar or lacquer related items that seems to fit here. 1618 237 05-14-23  02:55 pm Paul DiMauro Chinese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and "Canton enamels" etc. All Chinese or Tibetan gold, silver or metal pieces with or without enamels and those not identified 7559 904 08-13-23  06:32 pm melissa johnson Japanese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and other enamels Japanese metal wares inclusive of swords, armor and dress parts, coper, brass, iron, silver and gold, with and without enamels. Also Totai Shippo Cloisonné enamels, in which a ceramic, earthenware or porcelain body is utilized 2683 328 07-20-23  09:06 am Nomi Meivar General Help and Suggestions Restoration and conservation DISCLAIMER: Any handling at all of an antique item may permanently destroy it, as well as all values related to it such as its financial or historical value. Several of the chemicals and processes described here could be extremely harmful and should not be tried by non-professionals. Please be advised that any actual use of the information found here are solely on the individuals own risk and responsibility. By accessing the messages under this topic you are acknowledging that this disclaimer is read and understood. 1719 154 08-19-23  03:34 pm michael john donoghu Books - trade, review and suggestions Titles and recommendations of books and book sellers on Chinese Porcelain - add your favorites here. 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