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Gotheborg Forum Rules, Policies, Participation and Privacy
The purpose of this Asian Ceramic Art Collectors Community and Forum is to help each other, teach beginners and pass on the hard to gain practical knowledge on how to authenticate genuine Asian antique ceramics. Summary: 1. Ask when you need, 2. Help when you can, 3. No commercial intent.
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The Sportsman's Bar [ Quick list All today's posts, all topics ]
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Off Topic Trade News and Friendly Chit-chat [90 days archive]
News and friendly chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else. Threads not added to for more than 90 days will be deleted automatically.
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Pinned pages - Links to our most informative pages
On this Forum, we have more than 35,000 pages and 350 thousand+ posts and images under some 80 different topics, why some of our most informative pages might be difficult to find. When you find any really great and informative pages, please create a link here with an informative name to help others find it too.
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Local Meetings
Invitations to and reports from local chapter meetings
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08-11-23 08:14 am |
Giel Louws |
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Exhibitions and Museum Collections
Visits at public exhibitions, for easy reference. Please feel free to add your pictures here
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09-13-24 11:20 am |
Carol Todd |
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Member's Collection Gallery
The purpose of this topic is to showcase only known genuine and representative pieces in our members collection, to serve as a study and reference database. Welcome to create any topic you'd like to showcase. Give a brief description with measurement, period and any reference to public exhibitions or relevant literature. Two photos only of each piece. Front and back/base. Link to previous discussion authenticating the piece, if any. This topic will be edited and moderated to facilitate reading and focus.
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Charles Payne |
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Collection Stickers on Porcelain
Collection, Exhibition, Museum and Auction Labels found on porcelain.
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09-13-24 03:27 pm |
Cliff Nunn |
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Price Records and Exceptional Tales
Welcome to post any and all information on spectacular price records and antiques trade lore from today and days gone by.
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11-30-22 09:14 pm |
nick constant |
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Simons Quest
Put your fellow members on an educational trial. This topic are for objects whose authenticity (or lack thereof) are known, and where clues can be given gradually to stimulate discussion.
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06-02-23 11:57 am |
Louis Warner II |
Chinese Pottery and Porcelain
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If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question.
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Early Pottery
Neolithic and later earthenware, "proto-porcelain" jars and figures, Zhou, Warring States and Han, Sui, Tang, Ming and Qing figures and architechtural pieces, Changsha wares.
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09-30-24 03:51 pm |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Green glazed wares
Yue yao, Zhejiang Celadon, Northern and the numerous Southern Song kilns, Thai, Korean and Japanese ceramics and any related Asian ceramics with mostly green/gray/brown monochrome glaze
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10-05-24 02:24 am |
Aaron Gelner |
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White wares
White round wares from Tang dynasty, Ding yao, Qingbai/Yingqing, white Jingdezhen porcelain from Ming, Qing and later, Fujian province, etc.
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09-23-24 06:17 pm |
Kevin |
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Crackled wares
Song Guan or Ge or later imitations. Any porcelain with crackled glaze as an intentional decorative feature
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10-05-24 12:28 am |
Aaron Gelner |
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Brown and Black wares
Temmoku / Jian ware, Huangpu, Lushan, Cizhou and Jizhou.
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09-11-24 01:53 am |
Jeremy Beer |
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Jun
Jun family type of wares
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09-23-24 11:32 am |
Kevin Hawco |
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Yixing / Buccaro / Zisha (Purple Clay)
Typically brown or red stoneware teapots from clay mined near the city of Yixing in Jiangsu Province, China
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01-24-24 11:39 pm |
Giovanni Repetti |
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Yuan porcelain
Primarily Yuan porcelain with underglaze red or underglaze blue and white decoration. Monochromes can be posted elsewhere.
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09-29-24 08:16 pm |
Aaron Gelner |
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Ming period porcelain, all decorations
Underglaze blue and white, copper red and white, polychromes, Wucai, Swatow (Zhangzhou) ware etc.
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09-24-24 02:46 pm |
Wendy Orent |
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'Kraak' style decoration
If you are not sure if the decoration is Kraak, you can post under 'Ming', since that is usually what it is too.
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09-16-24 12:57 pm |
Magnus Brandén |
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The Manila Galleon Trade (1565-1815) and its extension to Spain
A special topic for trade ceramics from the Song, Yuan and Ming dynasties of China via Manila, capital of the Philiphines. From 1549 Manila was the only place where the Japanese and Chinese could openly trade. In 1571 Manila became part of New Spain (Mexico). The famed Manila galleons of Spain sailed between Acapulco and the Philippines bringing porcelain, silk, ivory, spices etc. from China to Mexico in exchange for New World silver. On returning, Asian wares went via the Spanish Philippines to Acapulco on Mexico’s west coast, then across Mexico to Spain, for more than 250 years. The Spanish Manila trade was the first worldwide trade network connecting Manila, Mexico City and Madrid into the world's first set of global cities.
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05-19-24 08:10 am |
David Pinilla Garcia |
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Chinese Imperial Porcelain
Discussions related to Imperial porcelain as such, ordering, decoration, marks, use etc.
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08-17-24 09:24 pm |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Early to mid Qing Blue and White
Typically Transitional and Kangxi blue and white with common shapes and decoration, that are not Armorial nor Imperial
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09-27-24 09:27 am |
ALAIN |
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Early to mid Qing porcelain - polychrome
Early to mid Qing dynasty polychrome wares, such as wucai, doucai, susancai that are not of armorial or special design type, nor Imperial.
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10-03-24 08:50 am |
Oscar |
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Chinese Western Market Export Porcelain
Special designs, Armorial porcelain, all pieces with shapes and decorations made to order or to fit foreign taste and customs. Decorations typically blue and white, Willow Pattern, Famille Rose, Famille verte (Kangxi wucai), Chinese Imari, Rose Medallion, etc.
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09-07-24 09:50 am |
Nomi Meivar |
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"Clobb'd" porcelain
Chinese export porcelain with secondary enamel decoration added in Europe
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05-31-23 08:56 am |
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Mid Qing to 21th century - Polychrome
19th and 20th century - Guangxu, Early Republic, Straits Chinese Porcelain, Fahua, fencai, the Eight Friends of Zhushan, Jiangxi Porcelain Co., Mao Zedong, etc.
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09-24-24 05:50 pm |
ALAIN |
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Mid Qing to 21th century - Blue and White
From "Kangxi revival" to modern wares. All pieces where underglaze blue is involved, also underglaze blue and red and high fired cobalt glaze.
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09-04-24 04:11 pm |
Thomas Koeck |
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Porcelain plaques
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08-05-24 12:44 am |
Michaela Russell |
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Dated porcelain
Porcelain dated to a specific year by their inscriptions.
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07-27-24 01:50 pm |
John Harruff |
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Michaela Russel's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project
Michaela's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project
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03-01-24 07:47 pm |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Tommy Eklof's Facial Features and Adornments Research Project
Welcome to comment and add new photos to the database
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10-25-23 06:09 pm |
Tom Reigel |
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Cultural Revolution Period Porcelain
1965-75 Chinese cultural revolution porcelain inside and outside of China proper, including Macao and Hong Kong decorated porcelain of the period.
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06-22-24 10:15 am |
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Bleu de Hue
Chinese porcelain for the Vietnamese market
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05-24-24 04:41 pm |
NGAN Phan |
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Figures or sculpted porcelain, Blanc-de-Chine or polychrome
White or polychrome sculpted pottery or Porcelain - Chen Guozhi, Wang Bingrong, Li Yucheng and similar, white, Blanc-de-Chine (Dehua), Shiwan or other polychrome ceramic wares, decorative or altar figures
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09-20-24 02:20 pm |
Eric Tipton |
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Monochromes
Colored glazes such as Ox-blood, peach bloom, powder blue, tea dust, yellow, green, mirror black, Faux bronze, faux wood, etc.
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08-22-24 09:14 am |
Nomi Meivar |
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Snuff Bottles
Special topic for Snuff Bottles regardless of material or decoration - porcelain, glass, lapiz lazuli, lacquer, bone etc.
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09-23-24 01:20 am |
Dormilui |
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Chinese Porcelain Marks
Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com "Marks" section. Additions and corrections for that section could be added here.
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07-21-24 11:06 pm |
Sajjapong Sangduench |
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Chinese Porcelain Motifs
On particular stories and their illustrations that appear on porcelain, with documentation and pictures of variations that appear on porcelain from different periods. Topics on particular motifs, such as dragon depictions/variations.
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11-07-22 12:52 pm |
Ernie Sanders |
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Modern Chinese Art Porcelain
Works currently produced by individual artist. Jiangxi's Ceramic Research Inst., etc
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10-23-23 05:16 pm |
Yin Hall |
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Chinese Kilns, Clays, Glazes and Decorations
Cross topic question that does not belong under any particular ware
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07-20-24 03:09 pm |
Xavier Miclet |
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Last resort - Help Needed - Chinese?
Chinese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved. If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it.
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08-22-24 09:45 am |
Nomi Meivar |
Japanese Pottery and Porcelain
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If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question.
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Japanese Section 'Off Topic'
Friendly thoughts and chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else
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09-17-24 09:31 am |
Kevin Donnelly |
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Last resort - Help Needed - Japanese?
Japanese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved. If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it.
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08-28-24 03:23 pm |
Mary Baumeister |
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Polychrome Arita/Hisen 'Imari' Porcelain
Kinrande (Blue Underglaze, Polychrome enamels and Gold). Akae (red dominating) or Iroe decorated with gilt decoration and other colors mostly for export.
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09-08-24 06:52 am |
John Wocher |
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Japanese Meiji-19-20th century polychrome enamels
All Meiji and later polychrome enamels, including all Meiji and later commercial kilns like Koransha, Fukagawa and Noritake. Also all wares labeled 'Made in Japan', 'Japan', 'Nippon' or with an 'M in wreath' etc. Also Dragonware and Moriage decoration. From the Meiji period (1868-1912) and later.
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09-27-24 10:47 am |
Daniel Mullan |
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Geisha Girl Porcelain
Japanese Porcelain with overglaze printed decoration of Japanese ladies in kimonos with printed outlines as defined by Elyce Litts, but extended also to porcelain where the decoration is similar but entirely hand painted.
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04-28-24 03:51 pm |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Blue and White Arita/Hisen Porcelain
Sometsuke and Ko-Sometsuke. This is the dominating kiln area for Japanese porcelain of the 19th century and older, in particular to the West since so much of this was exported. Post Japanese Blue and White here when in doubt.
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08-20-24 01:27 pm |
wil hugers |
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Other Japanese Blue and White
Underglaze Blue and white decorated porcelain of unknown but Japanese origin.
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07-23-24 02:50 am |
John Wocher |
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Japanese Figures
Human and animal figures could all be posted here regardless of kiln type or area.
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08-08-24 04:09 pm |
Nomi Meivar |
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Japanese Monochromes
Awaji and similar wares with entirely or mostly monochrome glazes. Japanese Celadon
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11-04-23 03:37 am |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Japanese blue and white transfer printed decoration
Blue and white Japanese porcelain with stenciled, transfer printed or otherwise print supported decoration
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04-30-23 10:04 am |
Richard Shakles |
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Carrie Lamberts Japanese Cobalt Blue Ceramics and other polychrome transfer printed decoration project
Cobalt Blue Ceramics and similar second half 20th century transfer printed decorations, including but not limited to Japan
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05-25-24 09:51 am |
Nomi Meivar |
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Japanese Porcelain Marks and Motifs
Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com 'Japanese Marks' section.
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07-17-24 10:49 pm |
Joseph Robert Putnak |
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Japanese Studio Pottery and Contemporary Porcelain
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12-09-23 01:58 am |
Tom Reigel |
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Sumida, Banko, Hagi, Mashiko, etc.
and other difficult to identify Japanese Pottery and Stoneware
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09-22-24 10:52 am |
Tommy Eklöf |
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Hirado
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03-17-24 09:28 pm |
M Heriot |
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Kakiemon
Kakiemon and Kakiemon style enamel decoration
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06-05-24 05:26 am |
walter perrie |
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Kutani
For more information on Kutani, kindly also refer to Georges Bouvier's Kutani Collectors web-site.
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10-04-24 11:20 pm |
Gary Kostka |
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Nabeshima
Nabeshima and 'Nabeshima style'
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06-13-24 03:15 am |
John Wocher |
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Satsuma and Satsuma-Like
Original Satsuma earthenware but also 'Satsuma marked' items and 'Satsuma looking' pices
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08-04-24 01:22 am |
John Wocher |
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Seto
Formerly Owari and Nagoya, renamed to Aichi Prefecture 1872. Largest ceramic center i Japan
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10-01-24 03:39 pm |
Nomi Meivar |
General pottery and porcelain questions
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Mystery Pieces
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08-02-24 04:04 pm |
Michael Aho |
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Known methods of faking
Method and technology in making pottery and porcelain fakes
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03-12-24 11:59 pm |
Giovanni Repetti |
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Discussions on Shapes
The shape of a piece is probably the most important clue to the identification of an item with regard to its authenticity and period. This category is for the discussion on the uniqueness (not just the shape of course) of a particular kind of ware that has been produced throughout a significant period of time in the history of Chinese ceramics like meiping; yuhuchun jar; ginger jar, Gu etc.
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03-26-24 08:59 am |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Base and foot rim archive
Add foot rims / bases of similar age to the same thread. Start new thread if you want to cover a new type that is not represented.
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02-26-23 04:48 pm |
Nomi Meivar |
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Asia outside China and Japan
Korea, Vietnam, Thai, Indonesia, etc.
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09-05-24 05:22 pm |
Nomi Meivar |
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Western wares with Oriental design
Edmée Samson of Paris, Delft, Bristol, Bow, Derby, Staffordshire, Caughley, etc. to Bernard Leach
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09-10-23 07:16 pm |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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Wares from the Middle east/Asia minor
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12-07-23 01:28 pm |
Joseph Robert Putnak |
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Shards and archaeology
For help to archaeologists and others on unspecified shard finds
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06-08-24 11:51 pm |
Richard Shakles |
Gold, Silver, Metal, Cloisonné, Lacquer, Ivory, Wood, Glass, Jade, Textiles and Paintings, etc.
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Textiles, Rugs, Prints, Silk, Paper, Paintings and Calligraphy
Textile art as in clothes, Chinese and Tibetan rugs but also anything related to silk and paper as in calligraphy and paintings
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08-14-24 02:44 pm |
Paul DiMauro |
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Non-ceramic pieces such as Wood, Glass, Ivory, Bone, Soft and hard stones, etc.
Most any non-ceramic wares and sculptures that does not fit anywhere else, being they Chinese or Japanese
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09-10-24 11:24 am |
Charles Payne |
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Lacquer
Chinese and Japanese lacquer, Lac Burgauté, cinnabar or lacquer related items that seems to fit here.
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09-22-24 05:36 pm |
Titien Holst |
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Chinese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and "Canton enamels" etc.
All Chinese or Tibetan gold, silver or metal pieces with or without enamels and those not identified
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07-13-24 08:58 pm |
Robert Stevens |
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Japanese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and other enamels
Japanese metal wares inclusive of swords, armor and dress parts, coper, brass, iron, silver and gold, with and without enamels. Also Totai Shippo Cloisonné enamels, in which a ceramic, earthenware or porcelain body is utilized
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General Help and Suggestions
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Restoration and conservation
DISCLAIMER: Any handling at all of an antique item may permanently destroy it, as well as all values related to it such as its financial or historical value. Several of the chemicals and processes described here could be extremely harmful and should not be tried by non-professionals. Please be advised that any actual use of the information found here are solely on the individuals own risk and responsibility. By accessing the messages under this topic you are acknowledging that this disclaimer is read and understood.
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09-30-24 02:13 pm |
Rainer Geschke |
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Books - trade, review and suggestions
Titles and recommendations of books and book sellers on Chinese Porcelain - add your favorites here. A wise collector should always buy two books per any one item. / JE
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09-17-24 09:26 pm |
M Heriot |
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Link suggestions
Valuable references on the Internet, to be included in the permanent LINKs file.
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09-07-24 03:40 pm |
Joseph Robert Putnak |
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Words of Wisdom
Fun, important, clever and unsolicited Advice to the Beginner Collector and New Members. And some board related issues that might have ended here by mistake.
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02-26-24 12:13 am |
Jan-Erik Nilsson |
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FAQ - How to Post and Participate - More instructions link below
FAQ on practical issues. See also the " Help/Instructions" link at the bottom of all pages.
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Giovanni Repetti |
COLLECTOR'S CORNER
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A few words in remembrance and gratitude
In this endeavor in creating and maintaining this Discussion Board and Website, my goal was to continue the tradition of scholarly generosity set by my mentor, Prof. em. Dr. Bo Gyllensvaerd, who served as the Director of the Museum of Far Eastern Antiquities in Stockholm from 1959 to 1981, and as Curator of the Carl Kempe Collection at Ekolsund, as well as the Gustaf VI Adolf Asian Collection from 1955 to 1973. I would also like to extend my heartfelt thanks to all the friends and collectors who have supported me when I needed help. This includes those who are still here today, actively assisting our members; and our absent friends who remain present in our minds and thoughts through their insightful and sharp observations in their past posts on this Board.
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